The chief remedies [consisted in] application of the science of engineering, which the medical men know nothing; and to gain powers for their applications, and deal with locak rights which stand in the way of practical imorovements, some jurisprudence is necessary of which the engineering know nothing [EC to Macbey Napier 11 October 1842; F 218].

The great preventives, drainage, street and house cleansing by means of supllies of water and improved sewerage, and especially the introduction of cheaper and more efficient modes of removing all noxious refuse from the towns, are operations for which aid must be sought drom the science of the Civil Engineer, not from the physician, who has done his work when he has pointed out the disease that results from the neglect of proper administrative measures, and has alleviated the sufferings of the victims [Sanitary Report 341].

Such is the absence of civic economy in some of our towns that their conditions inrespect to cleanliness is almost as bad as that of an encamped horde, or an undisciplined soldiery... The discipline of the army has advanced beyond the economy of the towns...The towns, whose population never change their encampment have no such care, and whilst the houses, streets, courts, lanes, and streams are polluted and rendered pestilential, the civic officers have generally contented themselves with the most barbarous expedients or sit still amongst the pollution, with the resignation of Turkish fatalists under the supposed destiny of the prevalent ignorance, sloth and filth [Sanitary Report 44].

Old Engineer:
[...]the technical deficiencies in the planning and construction of essential public services, and the universal neglect of the lesson of science in solving the problems of the towns, it became obvious to Chadwick that he must become his own engineer. No one had yet taken the principles of hydraulics out of the text-books and applied them to town drainage, nor had any one yet thought of bringing together all the practical improvements in water supply and housing that the inventive genius of the period was now making readily avairable. Chadwick boldly anneced to himself this vast, little-explored region. There were, indeed, at the beginning few to contest his title. The Institute of Civil Engineers had been founded as long ago as 1818, but its members were still struggling to establish recognised standards of professional competence. [...] The engineers of the water companies were wedded to the restrictive policies of their employers. In rural districts the highway surveyors were often no more than "ditch caters" or common labourers, while in the towns they were frequently unsuccessful builders or tradesmen, few of whom were capable even of drawing. [...] "wretched empirics the modern engineers!" [Water Supply. Metropolitan, MS., n.d.]. It was Chadwick's continual lament that there were "marvellously few" trustworthy men amongst them; "a more ignorant, or a more jobbing set of men, less to be trusted, as the difference of their estimates and their expenditure will shew, than the common run of men who dub themselves with the titile of engineer and pretend to science I have rarely met with"[E.C. to John Shuttleworth, 9 Octber 1844; L 53].